Dear Pedophiles: Furry Porn is not Bestiality

Almost nobody makes this argument anymore, it really takes someone who still believes it’s 2007 or more commonly, a lolicon defender to jump to these levels of assumptions. This is how it usually goes down:

  • Loli Fan: Lolicon is good and everyone who disagrees is an idiot.
  • Furry: I think lolicon/cub porn isn’t good because X, Y & Z.
  • Loli Fan: You are a furry, furry porn is just like bestiality, therefore you are a hypocrite.

So right off the bat you can see that this response doesn’t actually tackle any of the points X, Y and Z. Instead it attacks the person making the comment and then it accuses them of being a hypocrite. So we can immediately see dubious tactics from the Loli Fan.

Cool, but is furry porn like bestiality?

Let’s not stop just there, because also there is a false equivalence between furry porn and lolicon, viz. everything in the Loli Fan’s response has no basis. So why is it a false equivalence? Well, we have to examine why we can even compare bestiality/zoophilia to pedophilia to begin with:

Bestiality/Zoophilia Porn contains:

  • Humans performing sexual acts upon
  • Non-human Animals
  • The Animal participants are not sapient and are considered unable to give consent
  • The Human participants are sapient and can give consent
  • Thus, there is a power dynamic where the Humans cannot get consent from the Animals

Pedophilia Porn contains:

  • Adult Humans performing sexual acts upon
  • Human Children
  • The Children are not fully sapient and are considered unable to give consent
  • The Adults are fully sapient and can give consent.
  • Thus, there is a power dynamic where the Adults cannot get consent from the Children

So the underlying equivalent issue is Power Dynamics. In short, Adult Humans have significantly greater power than both Animals and Children, this means that consent cannot be reasonably given in both cases. Thus bestiality/zoophilia porn and pedophilia porn are comparable. However, let’s have a look at where Furry Porn fits into this:

Furry Porn contains:

  • Non-human Anthropomorphic Animals performing sexual acts upon
  • Humans or other Anthropomorphic Animals
  • The Anthropomorphic Animals are fully sapient
  • The Humans are fully sapient
  • Thus, there is no power dynamic as both parties are able to consent.

If you’re still confused, this can be watered down even further to Nekomimi and catgirls:

Catgirl Porn contains:

  • Non-human Nekomimi/Catgirls performing sexual acts upon
  • Humans or other Nekomimi
  • The Nekomimi are fully sapient
  • The Humans are fully sapient
  • Thus, there is no power dynamic as both parties are able to consent.

So why even try to claim equivalency?

The real reason is that Furry Porn has a certain ‘ick’ factor to it and because Lolicon has too an ‘ick’ factor the false assumption is that they’re equal because they’re ‘icky’. This ignores that Furry Porn doesn’t have the moral power dyamic issues of bestiality, while Lolicon/Cub Porn frequently shows power dynamic abuse.

Additionally, the Anime fandom has held rampant hatred for the Furry Fandom for a long time, and now that they’re under fire with legitimate criticism from all sides including from furries, they’re reverting to old techniques. Furries are long since used to being incorrectly called “dog-fuckers” despite surveys clearly showing disapproval and negative feelings towards Zoophilia in the fandom, with a minority in support.

Current activism in the fandom has placed massive pressure on zoophiles and cub porn fans, and many are being forced out of the fandom and ostracized. The same people falsely called out for ‘basically liking bestiality porn’ are ironically the same people who protested hard against zoophiles in the fandom already.

Follow up non-arguments

After you’ve pointed this out to a Lolicon fan though, expect to get one of these thrown in your face in a desperate attempt to appear relevant:

  • But she’s really a 6000 year old witch!
    • This is a meme, not an argument. Sticking a sign saying “i am 6000 years old” next to a picture of a 8 year old doesn’t change the fact that you just want to jerk off to pictures of 8 year old children.
  • Furries are into horsecock and knots, how is that not bestiality?!
    • Furries are sure into unusual shaped genitalia, including many of mythical creatures, which also many non-furries are coincidentally into. However this has nothing to do with sexually abusing animals or depicting sexual abuse of animals. You just think it’s ‘icky’, while also depicting sexual abuse of children.
  • But it’s animal genitalia, that means you want to have sex with animals!
    • Nah, the majority of furries have zero sexual interest in non-sapient creatures like real animals or even depictions, and this is backed up by data.
  • The statistics are wrong, furries must have lied on the survey!
    • Police don’t pour effort into tracking down zoophiles like they do pedophiles, and it was an anonymous survey, there is zero incentive for any of the participants to lie.
  • Furries literally just had one of their own arrested for raping animals!
    • The evidence against them was collected and filed to the police by furries, and they were publicly shamed and denounced by almost the entire fandom.
  • GTA V doesn’t encourage mass violence, so Lolicon doesn’t encourage pedophilia!
  • Lolicon is only drawn artworks, it’s not pedophilia!
    • You have a sexual preference for porn containing depictions of children, what’s that called?
  • It’s artwork, you just want to ban and censor art!
    • This is like saying the Nazi flag can’t be banned for use as a racist hate symbol because at some point somebody drew it.
  • Are you going to ban 400 year old pictures of naked baby angels, is that what you want?
    • False equivalency of tasteful nudity in classical artwork and pornography marketed towards pedophiles.
  • What about Furry Feral Porn with depicted real animals?

Small note on the data as also mentioned in the source, the rate of zoophilia in the furry fandom may not actually be measurably or meaningfully greater than the rate of zoophilia in the general population. Statistical evidence shows no firm link from the furry fandom to bestiality.

 

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